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Should the Avengers be Liable for the Injury and Damage They Cause to Persons and Property?

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A question occurred to me when I first watched The Avengers in 2012: “who was going to pay for all this damage caused by the Avengers in the Battle of New York?”

It was a fair question. It was one a lawyer would ask. It is a question I have now asked several times as I have seen the Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America and crew break or blow up anything within their vicinity to fight those who mean them (and I suppose by extension, “us” harm). But my questions did not stop there. I then asked “would our current laws even apply to such superhero damage?” When I answered that question, I went on to yet another…and for that, you need to keep reading.

Practically speaking, who does pay for all the damage they cause?

I see three possible scenarios or a combination:

  1. Insurance companies,
  2. The government, and/or
  3. Our tax dollars.

But we are talking about billions of dollars. Did you see what they did to New York City? Whole buildings crashed down. Parts of the city, especially Hell’s Kitchen, was destroyed. Insurance companies would likely find an exclusion in their policies or sure as heck try. I can just imagine at the first sight or news of any superhero, the carriers would all start drafting addendums to policies to specifically exclude damage caused by superheroes and hurriedly sending them out.

Our government? Sure, that is possible but to what government do we refer? State? They will ask the Feds for help. And the Federal Government cough up billions of dollars without looking for a third party to pay?

Let’s look at the 28 U.S.C. 2680(j).

This United States Code section carves out an exception to the Federal Tort Claims Act (the Act that lets people sue the Federal Government under limited circumstances) for claims “arising out of the combatant activities of the military or naval forces, or the Coast Guard, during time of war.”

But what is war? Congress sure as heck did not authorize a war on Loki and his Chitauri gangsters. All of this was happening behind the scenes, in the clandestine manner in which S.H.I.E.L.D. operates. And taking on face value all the Avengers are S.H.I.E.L.D. agents and S.H.I.E.L.D. is not part of the U.S. military (didn’t we learn they are under United Nations control via the Sokovia Accords? Let’s pretend we did), section 2680(j) does not apply.

The analysis cannot stop there. Think about S.H.I.E.L.D.’s defense. “Hey, if we let Loki and his Chitauri tear through Manhattan, they would have killed more people, destroyed even more property than they did, kept moving through the Eastern United States, eventually arriving at Washington, D.C. and ultimately destroyed the U.S. and world…”

So is that it? The superheroes, angry green monster and playboy weaponized armored suit billionaire get a pass?

That is where most people stop the analysis. Remember the question I mentioned earlier?

What would draft legislation look like to address this problem?

It is not enough to look at current law and break down its application. You have to take it further and enact new legislation to address a problem head-on…and like most legislation that comes out of Washington D.C., it may arguably be a solution looking for a problem but let us for now assume it is not that.

The Farzad-Legal Geeks Act of 2018.

It is 2018 because it would go effect 1/1/18 unless of course we needed emergency legislation.

And that is the placeholder name for now. I am drafting the legislation and since it is posted on the Legal Geeks website, it is as good a name as any for now. Since I am not sure what number the United States Code has reached, let us just start the legislation at 28 U.S.C. section 8000.

28 U.S.C. section 8000

“As used in this chapter, the term “superhuman being” includes human beings who possess superhuman abilities of strength, stamina or otherwise, regardless of how such superhuman beings attain and/or sustain such abilities. The term superhuman being includes but is not limited to those who use technology of any kind to enhance or sustain such abilities.”

This section of the Act would go on to give examples of such superhuman abilities (we have plenty of examples for that) in broad language.

The section would then have a separate place for “extraterrestrial aliens.” That section would read: “Extraterrestrial aliens are beings of any kind that possess superhuman abilities, as set forth above” and then incorporate what we have already laid out.

Finally, this section would have a place for agencies like S.H.I.E.L.D. and would categorize them as “agencies who command, control or otherwise cooperate with the superhuman beings to carry out operations of any kind.”

Yes, I realize that is all pretty darn broad. We want the attorneys to have something to challenge. Otherwise, there is no fun in this.

28 U.S.C. section 8001, et. seq.

From here, we get to the cool stuff.

First, you have the extraterrestrial aliens – Loki, Thor, etc. They get no rope. They should be strictly liable for all damages they cause. Why? Because if it was not for them, we would not need legislation like this. Our superheroes would be locking up normal bad guys. Speaking of bad guys…

Second, any superhuman being that engages in conduct that would be a crime under that State’s laws (whatever State they happened to do their deed) or Federal laws would be strictly liable. This keeps the bad guys from using this statute to escape liability. I am not certain we need the State law incorporation or if Federal law is enough. We can chew on that issue.

Third, you cannot hold the superhuman beings or even an agency like S.H.I.E.L.D liable under ordinary negligence standards for what we will call “services, the sole purpose of which, is to defend against forces that, if not impeded in their efforts, are reasonably likely to cause injury to persons who are not superhuman beings or damage to property.” The point is to ensure before we give the superheroes and agencies a limited immunity, they actually have to be engaged in deep blue hero work.

Fourth, we address the standard of care. This one has several options. Gross negligence standard is one option. Would the burden of proof be preponderance of the evidence, clear and convincing or beyond a reasonable doubt? This is not criminal liability so the latter is likely out. That leaves us with the first two. I like the gross negligence standard and I advocate the evidence should be clear and convincing.

Fifth, we would need a special tribunal. There is no way we can put this in front of 12 licensed drivers (read: jury). The special tribunal would hear these cases, it would comprise of 9 judicial officers, and a vote of 5 to 4 is necessary to find liability.

So there you have it…

I hope this stimulates your legal mind and gets those geeky juices flowing. Got any ideas about this legislation, how it would read and how it may be applied? Start sharing and comment below.

Robert Farzad is the president of Farzad Family Law, APC, that is based in Orange County, California. He has been a California licensed attorney since June of 1996 and helped grow his multi-attorney and multi-office firm from the ground up. Outside the law, he enjoys creative writing, poetry, English and American Literature. This article was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

Reflections on San Diego Comic Con 2017

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San Diego Comic Con is always an amazing adventure. Thank you to Mike and Wendy Towry, the hardworking Comic Con International organizers, and everyone who attended our two panels. We started The Legal Geeks in July of 2012 to share our love of pop culture and the law. It was extremely rewarding to see so many people attend our Luke Cage mock trial and Judges on Star Wars panel. Thank you.

“Comic Con” was started by fans who love comics and science fiction. It was a privilege to be with other “geeks” who have all dreamed of double sunsets and superheroes.

Luke Cage Mock Hearing

Lawyers and fans turned out in force to see Sweet Christmas! A Mock Trial to Prove Luke Cage is Innocent. Magistrate Judge Mitch Dembin presided over our fictional case. The attorneys who argued the case were Christine Peek of McManis Faulkner, Megan Smith, Steve Chu, and Jane Boardman, Chief Deputy City Attorney for the City of San Diego. Our “Luke Cage” was played by David Gibson, a Federal law enforcement officer, who loved the character, and studied the Netflix show in preparation for the mock hearing.

The participating attorneys put in countless hours to build their arguments, prepare their witnesses, and develop a plausible scenario to prove Luke’s innocence. One attorney recruited their DEA friends to prepare mock lab reports as a training exercise to create the exculpatory evidence for the case. We also had fun working in homages to the comic legends who created Luke Cage in 1972.

The mock hearing was an advanced civics lesson that highlighted while the Petitioner could challenge his original conviction, there was the issue of the separate escape charge. The Court ultimately found that Luke Cage would not have been convicted by a reasonable jury if the suppressed evidence had been known. The [fictional] State of Georgia exercised prosecutorial discretion in not pursuing the escape charge against the former prisoner found to be innocent of the underlining crime.

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Judges on Star Wars

California Supreme Court Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuellar, Circuit Judge John B. Owens of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Federal Magistrate Judge Mitch Dembin, Federal Magistrate Judge Stacie Beckerman, CA Judge Carol Najera, and former Federal Magistrate Judge Paul Grewal (now Deputy General Counsel of Litigation at Facebook), all love Star Wars. Their legal analysis from Droid Civil Rights, to tracing the property ownership of Anakin’s original lightsaber to Rey, to lawfulness of interrogations, and Han’s legal justification to shoot Greedo, was exceptional.

Thank you for the kind words.

Magistrate Judge Stacie Beckerman stole the show, like it was a Tie Fighter on the Finalizer, with her legal defense of Finn for desertion. Judge Beckerman rapped her argument to the tune of Hamilton. I am glad I was in the room where it happened.

Judge Beckerman’s Defense of FN-2187.

Our Star Wars panel was in Room 7AB, which had all of the other Star Wars panels that day. We were honored to be included with panels such Hasbro’s preview of upcoming toys and LucasFilm alumni sharing the early days of fandom.

Attendees arriving for our Star Wars panel. The room sat 480 people and there was a line out the door.

Other Comic Con Experiences

Walt Simonson wrote my favorite Thor stories in the 1980s. From Beta Ray Bill to Surtur to the Death Curse, Simonson literally wrote the book on The Might Thor.

The Mighty Thor 380, where Thor fought the Midgard Serpent, is still one of my all time favorite comics.

It was a pleasure to see Walt and his wife Louise share their experiences in comics. Louise wrote X-Factor and created Apocalypse. They shared how the crossover event Mutant Massacre was planned after a discussion with Chris Claremont, plus what followed with The Fall of the Mutants and Inferno.

The Stan Against Evil panel was a lot of fun. I have fond memories of Dana Gould when he appeared at my mother’s comedy club Rooster T. Feathers in the late 1990s. My brother went to college with Janet Varney. I loved them in their comedy group Totally False People. It is great seeing both Dana and Janet’s continued success on Stan Against Evil. Season 2 looks like a riot.

The Droid Builders and NASA JPL panels were both excellent. The dedicated fans who build RD-D2s and BB-8s have a profound love of Star Wars. The JPL panel was out-of-this-world on how engineers and scientists build spacecraft to go to Mars. Below are photos from both panels and other sights from San Diego Comic Con.

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Thank you all for the memories. Hope to see you next year.

Aunt May’s Liability for Spider-Man’s Fight on the Staten Island Ferry

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Aunts are awesome. Aunt May arguably is the most well known aunt in pop culture. However, Aunt May in Spider-Man Homecoming rightly would freak out if she knew the full extent of her nephew’s after school activities.

Aunt May is Peter Parker’s legal guardian. As such, could the passengers on the Staten Island Ferry sue Aunt May for Spider-Man’s fight that resulted in their cars going overboard after the ferry was cut in two [if Peter’s identify was known]?

New York enacted a Parental Liability Act in 1970 where parents and legal guardians would be liable for the “malicious and destructive acts of their children, between the ages of 10 and 18, who are in their custody and unemancipated at the time of the damage.” See, New York’s Parental Liability Act, General Obligations Law § 3-112.

There would be a question of fact whether Spider-Man’s fight with the Vulture was “malicious or destructive.” However, that issue is moot, because the New York Parental Liability Act was found to be Unconstitutional in 1988, because it was a bill of attainder that punished parents for the crimes of their children. Owens v. Ivey, 525 N.Y.S.2d 508, 138 Misc.2d 671 (N.Y. City Ct., 1988).

The New York Parental Liability Act effectively replaced the need for a trial. All a party had to do was prove intentional and malicious conduct done by a child; that they suffered damages because of the child’s conduct; and prove the parent (or legal guardian) was related to the child. Owens, at *514-515.

In the case of the ferry passengers, they could prove 1) Spider-Man intentionally fought with the Vulture, which interfered with an FBI sting operation; 2) the fight resulted in the cars being a total loss after going overboard; and 3) that Aunt May was the legal guardian of Peter Parker. This on its face would be liability for being Peter Parker’s guardian.

By way of comparison, it is a good thing Aunt May lives in Queens. Parental liability laws are legal in California, where the maximum limit for property damages is $25,000 under Cal Civ Code § 1714.1 (other states have lower limits). Given the number of cars that went overboard, Aunt May would have serious liability issues for each automobile, if May and Peter lived in California.

New York does have exceptions to the prohibition of cases for parental liability, such as for negligent supervision of a child with a known propensity for violent conduct, or to shield third parties from a child’s use of a dangerous instrument, especially if the parent has knowledge and can control the use of the dangerous instrumentality. See, McEntee v. Cappucci, 701 N.Y.S.2d 766 (N.Y. City Civ.Ct., 1999), citing Zuckberry v. Munzer, 277 A.D. 1061, 100 N.Y.S.2d 910, (2nd Dep’t 1950) and Nolechek v. Gesuale, 46 N.Y.2d 332, 338, 413 N.Y.S.2d 340, 385 N.E.2d 1268 (1978).

A plaintiff’s attorney in New York could argue that Peter Parker has a propensity for violent conduct, because of his vigilante activities. However, Aunt May has a strong defense because of her lack of knowledge about Peter’s activities as Spider-Man. However, the more interesting question is Tony Stark’s knowledge and enabling of Peter’s activities as Spider-Man with the “Stark Internship.” As the only deep pocket, it would make more sense for plaintiffs to sue Tony Stark, opposed to an aunt in Queens, as Stark arguably was acting in a Respondeat-Superior relationship with Peter Parker by providing Parker an enhanced suit to complement his augmented abilities.

Mock Luke Cage Petition for Writ of Habeas Corpus

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Join us at San Diego Comic Con on July 20, 2017 at 800pm in Room 23ABC for Sweet Christmas! A Mock Trial to Prove Luke Cage is Innocent.

The mock hearing is based upon the ending of Marvel’s Luke Cage on Netflix. Luke was taken into custody by U.S. Marshals in New York City to be returned to Georgia for breaking out of the fictional Seagate Prison. We extrapolated what exculpatory evidence could be in the folder found at Pop’s Barbershop from the original Power Man comics from the 1970s: Diamondback had Luke framed for heroin possession.

Christine Peek, Esq., from McManis Faulkner in San Jose, California, appearing pro hac vice with the fictional Hogarth, Chao and Benowitz, LLP for our mock hearing, prepared the following petition to prove Luke Cage’s actual innocence:

Verified_Petition_for_Writ_of_Habeas_Corpus_Carl_Lucas_Luke_Cage

What will we learn from the testimony of Nicholas Manolis? How will U.S. Magistrate Judge Mitch Dembin rule on the petition? Join us on July 20 at 800pm to find out at Sweet Christmas! A Mock Trial to Prove Luke Cage is Innocent.

Please Nominate The Legal Geeks for the ABA Web 100

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The ABA Journal has expanded the Blawg 100 to include social media and podcasts. We would appreciate your nominations for The Legal Geeks in the blog, podcast, and social media categories.

We started our blog in July 2012 to share our love of the law and geekdom. In the past year, we have been able to give other lawyers and law students the opportunity to share their geek love of the law, with guest posts, podcasts, and comic conventions. Thank you all who have joined us for the adventure.

To nominate The Legal Geeks, please visit the ABA Journal and tell them why you are a fan of our blog, podcast, and social media. Voting ends 11:59 p.m. CST July 30, 2017.

Your vote counts and is greatly appreciated.

Return of the Lawyer to San Diego Comic Con

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Jessica and I started The Legal Geeks to share our love of comics, science fiction, and the law. We are thrilled to be returning to San Diego Comic Con for the third time and our fifth anniversary. I have presented over 450 legal seminars in my career and the most high profile ones have been at San Diego Comic Con. Our two panels this year have amazing judges and lawyers who love pop culture. We hope you can join us in San Diego for our Luke Cage Mock Trial and Judges on Star Wars.

Thursday, July 20, 2017 

800pm-900pm Sweet Christmas! A Mock Trial to Prove Luke Cage is Innocence

Marvel’s Luke Cage ended with Luke in FBI custody for breaking out of prison. Join us for a mock evidentiary hearing where attorneys will argue to US Magistrate Judge Mitch Dembin a writ of habeas corpus to prove Cage’s actual innocence.

Attorneys arguing the case include Christine Peek, Esq., McManis Faulkner, and Megan Smith, Esq., for Luke Cage (played by David Gibson); and Steve Chu, Esq., and Jane Boardman, Deputy City Attorney for the City of San Diego Office of The City Attorney, for the Government. Room 23ABC.

Friday, July 21, 2017

300pm-400pm Judges on Star Wars

Is the Dark Side an Addiction or choice for Kylo Ren? What are the Civil Rights of Droids? Did interrogating Bodhi Rook with the Bor Gullet violate Rook’s rights?

Join California Supreme Court Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuellar, Circuit Judge John B. Owens of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Federal Magistrate Judge Mitch Dembin, Federal Magistrate Judge Stacie Beckerman, CA Judge Carol Najera, and former Federal Magistrate Judge Paul Grewal (now Deputy General Counsel of Litigation at Facebook), to hear their legal analysis, and love, of Star Wars. Moderated by Joshua Gilliland, Esq., and Jessica Mederson, Esq, of The Legal Geeks. Room 7AB.

If you are attending San Diego Comic Con, you can follow the links to our panels Sweet Christmas! A Mock Trial to Prove Luke Cage is Innocence and Judges on Star Wars to add them to your schedule.

Admissibility of Zhora’s Photo in Blade Runner

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The 1982 classic Blade Runner posed a complex evidentiary issue: How could Leon’s photo of Zhora be admissible in court? Would the zoomed in image of Zhora be merely a duplicate from the original image? Or would expert testimony be needed to authenticate the image?

Blade Runner Rick Deckard used the ESPER machine in his apartment to pull an image from a reflection in a photo found in the hotel room of the Replicant Leon. The verbal commands to navigate the image were:

Enhance 224 to 176. Enhance, stop. Move in, stop. Pull out, track right, stop. Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop. Enhance 34 to 36. Pan right and pull back. Stop. Enhance 34 to 46. Pull back. Wait a minute, go right, stop. Enhance 57 to 19. Track 45 left. Stop. Enhance 15 to 23. Give me a hard copy right there.

Blade Runner script

Deckard scanned in the original photo for analysis in the ESPER machine. As such, there is no metadata from the original photo, because it was a printed image, not an electronic one. However, there should be an audit log within the ESPER machine that documented the analysis of the photo.

Photographic evidence can be admissible in California if the photos properly authenticated. Evid. Code, §§ 250, 1401, subd. (a). Photos can be authenticated by the testimony of someone with personal knowledge of the photo when it was taken (they were in the photo or took the photo) or expert testimony if no one has personal knowledge of the photo. People v. Bowley (1963) 59 Cal.2d 855. More recent cases have explained that authentication for photos “may be supplied by other witness testimony, circumstantial evidence, content and location” and “also may be established ‘by any other means provided by law’ including a statutory presumption.“ People v. Goldsmith, 59 Cal.4th 258, p. 268 (Cal., 2014), citing CA Evid. Code § 1400.

Cases involving photos on social media and cell phones are helpful to authenticate the photo of Zhora recovered from the ESPER machine.

In a case from San Francisco, a police officer searched Instagram to monitor a person on probation. The officer saw photos of the person on probation, plus another who was a wanted felon, posing with guns on Instagram photos. The officers went to the known address of the individual on probation and made arrests of the two individuals. Both individuals were wearing the same clothes as in the photos. People v. K.B. (In re K.B.), 238 Cal.App.4th 989 (Cal. App., 2015).

While not stated if it was a search incident to arrest, the cell phone of one of the Defendants was forensically collected was a tool named Cellebrite. A report was offered to the Court stating images the exact time and date the photons that appeared on Instagram were taken. In re K.B, at *994-995.

The Court held that the investigating officers properly authenticated the photos, despite neither Defendant testifying to the authenticity of the photos. In re K.B, at *997-998. The officers had seen photos of the suspects on Instagram; the officers were familiar with the suspects; the suspects were wearing the same clothes in the photos when arrested; and the officers found the original photos on one of the suspect’s phones with forensic software that appeared on Instagram. All of these factors weighed in favor of properly authenticating the photos for admissibility.

Applying California Evidence Code Evid. Code § 1400 and recent case law, a Court could find the photo of Zhora with the ESPER machine to be admissible. The device scanned in the photo found in Leon’s hotel room and visually navigated the photo to find the image of Zhora. While some expert testimony would be necessary to explain how the ESPER machine operated, this is no different from explaining how forensic software such as Cellebrite operates. Moreover, as Deckard had the ESPER machine in his apartment, such technology might have been as commonplace as a Blu Ray player, which arguably would lower how much detail would need to be offered to explain how “common” technology operates. Furthermore, the audit log of the verbal commands should be offered to the Court, just as the report from Cellebrite, for the Court to understand how the image of Zhora was discovered in the original photo.

A Court would likely find the photos admissible…if Replicants had a right to a trial before being “retired.”