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San Diego Comic Con 2024 Panel Recordings

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The Legal Geeks had one crazy summer…including two panels at San Diego Comic Con. A big thank you to all who attended our panels. Below are the panel descriptions and audio recorded at Comic Con. 

Lawyerbots, Rollout! Law from the 1984 Transformers Cartoon and Comic Recorded Live at SDCC

Do Autobots need to be registered with the DMV and get a driver’s license? Did Megatron and Ratchet have an enforceable contract? Was it child endangerment to send Spike out on missions? See how law is more than meets the eye with our analysis of the Transformers, featuring Kate Bridal (The Legal Burnouts Podcast), Katrina Wraight, Esq., (Best Best & Krieger LLP), Kathy Steinman, Esq., (San Diego City Attorney’s Office), Michael Dennis Esq., (Crabtree Schmidt), Mark Zaid, Esq., (MARK S. ZAID, P.C.), and Joshua Gilliland, Esq., (Greenan, Peffer, Sallander & Lally LLP). Presented by The Legal Geeks.

Law of The Acolyte – Recorded at SDCC 2024

Can Jedi read a suspect’s mind without violating the right against self-incrimination? What are the use of Force concerns in law enforcement? Is it legal for Jedi detain someone and question them without informing the suspect of their right to counsel and right to remain silent? Do witches have a religious freedom to use the Force? Join us and find out with Circuit Judge John Owens, Magistrate Judge Stacie Beckerman, Magistrate Judge Stan Boone, Christine Peek, Esq., Stephen Tollafield Esq., and Joshua Gilliland, Esq. (Greenan, Peffer, Sallander & Lally LLP). Presented by The Legal Geeks.

WonderCon 2024 Panels for The Legal Geeks

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Our panels at WonderCon 2024 are brought to you by the Letter G for Godzilla and Ghostbusters! We are thrilled to return for two panels highlighting a new “empire” of law! Check out our schedule below.

Friday March 29, 2024 8:00pm – 9:00pm PDT

Godzilla Minus Lawyers 

Lawyers love Kaiju! Just think of all the liability issues after a Godzilla rampage. Will insurance cover a Kaiju stepping on your house? What do you do if you find an orphaned baby? What are the legal ramifications of having secret wives with families in two countries? Those are questions for lawyers! A panel of attorneys and judges discuss Godzilla Minus One, Monarch Legacy of Monsters, and more, celebrating the 70th anniversary of Godzilla. Featuring Circuit Judge John Owens (9th Circuit of Appeals), U.S. Magistrate Judge Stan Boone, Monte Cooper, Esq. (Goodwin), Katrina Wright, Esq. (Best Best & Krieger LLP), Kate Bridal, Esq., and Joshua Gilliland, Esq. (Greenan, Peffer, Sallander, & Lally LLP). Panel organized by The Legal Geeks.

Saturday March 30, 2024 8:00pm – 9:00pm PDT

Ghostbusters: Law of the Afterlife 

Who you gonna call? That’s right, lawyers! Join a panel of lawyers and judges for the 40th anniversary of Ghostbusters ! Is it false imprisonment to capture a ghost? What environmental protection laws are violated by operating the containment unit within a city? Do you have to register a proton pack with the Department of Energy? Was it legal to take the Statue of Liberty on a walk to save the world? Did the Shandor Mining Company comply with all mining requirements for building Gozer’s temple? Bring your Tobin’s Spirit Guide and find out. Featuring Judge Danna Nicholas, Judge Carol Najera, Stephen Tollafield, Esq. (Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP), Kathy Steinman, Esq. (San Diego City Attorney’s Office), Christine Peek, Esq., and Joshua Gilliland, Esq. (Greenan, Peffer, Sallander, & Lally LLP). Panel organized by The Legal Geeks.

 

San Diego Comic Con 2023 Panels for The Legal Geeks

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We are returning to San Diego Comic Con! You can see us Thursday and Saturday at 700 pm each night! Below is our panel schedule.

Thursday 

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See you at San Diego Comic Con for Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Lawsuit!

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7:00PM – 8:00PM Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Lawsuit You throw me the idol, I throw you the whip, is the beginning of legal analysis for Dr. Indiana Jones. Did Indy and Marion Ravenwood have a valid partnership agreement to find the Ark of the Covenant? Did Satipo breach his fiduciary duty to Indiana at the Temple of the Chachapoyan Warriors? Does the insanity defense apply to anyone who drank the Blood of Kali? Did Germany actually declare war on Dr. Jones Senior and Junior? And if the US Government classifies the Ark of the Covenant as Top Secret, what is necessary to declassify it for a FOIA request? This is the time when a fedora is proper courtroom attire, so join our team of lawyers and judges for fortune and glory, featuring Circuit Judge John B. Owens (9th Circuit Court of Appeals), US Magistrate Judge Steve Chu, Christine Peek, Mark Zaid, Michael Dennis, and Joshua Gilliland. Presented by The Legal Geeks. Room: Grand 12, Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina

Saturday

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At San Diego Comic Con, on Saturday, 7:00PM – 8:00PM, Lawyermania – Guardians of the Law – It’s time to shrink down complex legal issues from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 and Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantiumania with lawyers and judges! What was the legal justification for the Council of Kangs to sentence Kang the Conqueror to the Quantum Realm? Did Kang and Janet Van Dyne have an enforceable contract to repair Kang’s ship? Was there a deed of title for the sale of Knowhere? Is building a city in the corpse of a Celestial desecration of a corpse? Join our team of legal heroes for their analysis of the latest films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, featuring Judge Carol Najera, Crystal Swanson, Stephen Tollafield, Kathy Steinman, Nari Ely, and Joshua Gilliland.  Presented by The Legal Geeks. Room: 25ABC. #sandiegocomiccon #sdcc

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7:00PM – 8:00PM, Lawyermania – Guardians of the Law – It’s time to shrink down complex legal issues from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 and Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantiumania with lawyers and judges! What was the legal justification for the Council of Kangs to sentence Kang the Conqueror to the Quantum Realm? Did Kang and Janet Van Dyne have an enforceable contract to repair Kang’s ship? Was there a deed of title for the sale of Knowhere? Is building a city in the corpse of a Celestial desecration of a corpse? Join our team of legal heroes for their analysis of the latest films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, featuring Judge Carol Najera, Crystal Swanson, Stephen Tollafield, Kathy Steinman, Nari Ely, and Joshua Gilliland.  Presented by The Legal Geeks. Room: 25ABC

Secret Invasion Podcast Series

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Join us for our analysis of Secret Invasion.


The Mandalorian Season 3 Podcasts and Video Review

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Join us for our analysis of The Mandalorian, season three.

Star Trek Picard Season 3 Podcasts

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Join us for our legal analysis of Star Trek Picard season 3.

Did Thor Commit Child Endangerment by Empowering Kidnapped Children with the Power of Thor [for a limited time] to fight Gorr’s Shadow Monsters?

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Image provided by Thorsson & Associates

There are many dilemmas superheroes face, but Thor Love and Thunder posed a new one: Do you empower kidnapped children to go full Ark of the Covenant on monsters hellbent on killing them? Does the act of empowering them to fight constitute child endangerment? If so, are there any defenses? 

Child Endangerment to Fight Shadow Monsters 

While Norse gods might have a different view of child endangerment, California defines the crime as follows: 

“Any person who, under circumstances or conditions likely to produce great bodily harm or death, willfully causes or permits any child to suffer, or inflicts thereon unjustifiable physical pain or mental suffering, or having the care or custody of any child, willfully causes or permits the person or health of that child to be injured, or willfully causes or permits that child to be placed in a situation where his or her person or health is endangered, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison for two, four, or six years.”

Cal. Pen. Code § 273a

The events in Love and Thunder saw Gorr kidnap the children of New Asgard in his quest to kill all gods in the universe by going to the Gates of Eternity. Thor journeyed to where the children were falsely imprisoned and had a choice: take the children home, which would have let Gorr complete his genocidal plan or empower the children to also fight Shadow Monsters. 

The legal issue is whether Thor willfully permitted the children to be placed in a situation where their health was endangered. The children were already kidnapped. If Thor took them from Gorr’s prison, the children would have been killed [along with every other Asgardian and other deity] by Gorr. However, powering up the children to effectively be child soldiers against Shadow Monsters meets the requirement for a child’s health to be endangered. While not a great choice, the empowered children were placed in danger. However, as soon as Thor liberated Stormbreaker, he gave it to Heimdall’s son Axl to return the children back to the safety of New Asgard. 

The Necessity to Defense for Giving the Children the Power of Thor [Limited Time]

The purpose of the Necessity Defense is public policy not to punish individuals despite proof on all elements of a crime. People v. Beach, 194 Cal.App.3d 955, 973 (Cal. Ct. App. 1987)

In order to prove the Necessity Defense, the California Jury Instruction require the following: 

1. Thor acted in an emergency to prevent a significant bodily harm or evil to the children;

2. Thor had no adequate legal alternative;

3. Thor’s acts did not create a greater danger than the one avoided;

4. When Thor acted, he actually believed that the act was necessary to prevent the threatened harm or evil;

5. A reasonable person would also have believed that the act was necessary under the circumstances; AND

6. Thor did not substantially contribute to the emergency.

CALCRIM No. 3403.

The arguments for each element are as follows:

    1. Thor had to empower the children because there was insufficient time to return them to New Asgard before Gorr committed mass genocide; 
    2. Thor was no other option, because leaving with the children would have result in Gorr completing his mission to kill all gods, including the Asgardian children; 
    3. Thor’s actions kept Gorr for a mass killing and allowed the children to defend themselves; 
    4. Thor believed his actions were necessary to protect the children and lives of gods;
    5. A reasonable person would agree there were no other actions; and
    6. Thor did not contribute to the emergency, because the children had the power to defend themselves. 

Thor really needs a jury to accept there was no other option other than empowering the children to fight the Shadow Monsters. Given the scope of the failure to do so, and the fact the children were saved (and had one heck of a therapy session destroying their kidnappers), the Necessity Defense should be successful.