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Paralegal & Cosplayer Leslie Crystal on The Geekie Awards

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Leslie Crystal joined Josh to talk about The Geekie Awards. Leslie works in IP Litigation, has been to San Diego Comic Con, and is also known as the twins Lara & Tara on The Guild. Both discuss the show, Stan Lee singing and their favorite moments from The Geekie Awards. Don’t worry, neither discuss document review or discovery requests.

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Rise of The Geekie Awards

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Alison Haislip, host of The Geekie Awards, toasting a successful first event.

Stan Lee.

Seth Green.

NASA JPL.

The Geekie Awards was a tour de force of talented professionals who excel at being Geeks.

This was perhaps one of the greatest gatherings ever to recognize the hard work of being a “Geek.”

One for The Geeks

The Geekie Awards was organized by Kristen Nedopak and her very talented team. The awards show was the first of its kind recognizing “geeks.” The event sold out and the show was trending on Twitter above the season finale of True Blood.

There has yet to be a legal conference with that much energy.

Miracle Laurie poking fun at Kristen Stewart.
Miracle Laurie poking fun at Kristen Stewart.

I was grateful I ordered my tickets early. We were at Table 2. Right under the podium. Best seats in the house.

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Kristen Nedopak’s “Thanks Mom” Moment.

Powerhouse Opening

The Geekie Awards opened with Seth Green presenting Stan Lee the Lifetime Achievement Award. This was followed by recognizing NASA JPL for their “Geek Cred” for landing Curiosity on Mars.

Yes, Flight Director “Mohawk Guy” gave a nice speech.

Stan "The Man" Lee and Seth Green.
Stan “The Man” Lee and Seth Green.

It is tough to imagine who will be honored next year for the Lifetime Achievement Award. Lucas? Spielberg? I do not envy the selection team.

It is a shame Ray Harryhausen is no longer with us. There is a man who inspired generations of Geeks.

Nothing but respect for Marc Evan Jackson's bow tie choice.
Nothing but respect for Marc Evan Jackson’s bow tie choice.

The Awards

The Geekie Awards recognized excellence in the following categories:

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Madeleine Holly-Rosing, author of the comic mini-series the Boston Metaphysical Society. Both BMS and The Legal Geeks had honorable mentions.
Next year, we hopefully will be nominees.
Yes, I am wearing an original “I Like Ike” button from the 1952 Presidential Election.

Art & Craft

Comic Books & Graphic Novels

Crowdfunded Geek

One Shots

Podcasts

Retail Stores & Websites

Short Films

Toys & Games

Web Series

I cannot express how I was in awe of the talent of the nominees.

From the creativity of the short film Undying Love, to the talent in Cosplay Piano, to the unmatched skill of One Carve to Rule Them All, you could respect the dedication all of these winners to have such geek perfection.

Nothing like a winner taking a photo of the attendees.
Nothing like a winner taking a photo of the attendees.

Classy Honorees

All of the honorees showed exceptional humility and class to their fellow nominees. I strongly encourage check out all of the amazing work.

The team from Cosplay Piano at the end of their acceptance speech.
The team from Cosplay Piano at the end of their acceptance speech.

We Went Full Geek

The Avalon was transformed into a Geek playground. R2D2 was on the Red Carpet. They had the Bridge of the Enterprise-D. Tons of amazing cosplay.

For the record, yes, I brought my 3rd Doctor sonic screwdriver.

On the Bridge of the Enterprise-D. I'd love to do a Star Trek video podcast from there. Yes, I was the gentleman and let my friend sit in the Captain's Chair first.
On the Bridge of the Enterprise-D, apparently in a worm hole from the lighting.
I’d love to do a Star Trek video podcast from there.
Yes, I was the gentleman and let my friend sit in the Captain’s Chair first.

I was greatly impressed with The Geekie Awards. My good friend who accompanied me, also an attorney, described it as extremely fun. She wants to attend next year.

My only suggestion for next year is for registering guests: 1) Have different colored signs for where people should line-up, because colors are easier to organize lines then having to read any text from a distance; and 2) Have registration tables labeled “A-G” and so on to ease the check-in process.

Job well done. I look forward to The Geekie Awards: Year 2.

Huzzah: A Renaissance Fair Post!

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RenFairFoolOne of the many great things about doing this blog is that it makes me more fully realize my inner geek.  And this past weekend I took a big step forward in my geekdom – I went to a Renaissance Fair for the first time!  It was a ton of fun and I don’t know what I liked most: the bawdy song and joke routines, the jousting, or the amazing costumes so many other attendees were wearing.

ElizabethBeing a novice, I wasn’t sure at first what age and area the fair was supposed to be depicting (after all, I didn’t get a Leonardo da Vinci Renaissance vibe there).  But there was a parade with Queen Elizabeth and there were lots of dirty jokes and songs, so I finally figured out that the focus was on the Elizabethan era in England.

RenFairKnightWalking around, I saw a lot of jokers, knights, merry maids, and queens, but no lawyers.  Guess the Renaissance Fair isn’t that interested in the legal issues of the age, but they’re actually missing out.  According to my research, the law was very popular in Elizabethan England.  Not only were they very litigious, but they also loved attending court as a form of entertainment (guess it was the original “Law and Order.”)

While common law was prevalent in England at this time, there was also a particular legal philosophy that was very popular during the Renaissance.  Called natural law, it believed that the laws were derived from nature and therefore universal.  While it influenced common law, it did not think that law came from a bunch of judges.  Instead, it believed that there were certain rights and values that were recognized through our human reason and very nature.

Natural law is no longer common but different treatment for the rich and the poor is still a problem in our legal system.  In England during the Renaissance, recognizing that some people may be too powerful for the legal system, they created the Star Chamber.  Based at Westminster, its proceedings were held in secret with little of the legal rights or procedures we would be familiar with.  Over time, unfortunately, it turned into a political weapon that was used against political foes.

ShakespeareAnyway, back to the English viewing their legal system as a form of entertainment, I have to end with some quotes from the greatest entertainer of the Elizabethan era, Shakespeare himself.  Acknowledging the prominent place of the legal community in popular culture of the time, Shakespeare included many references to lawyers in his plays (most of them fairy unfavorable).  The first is the quote that concerns me the most, because it often shows up in science fiction stories.  The others are just some of my favorite legal quotes from Billy himself.

  • The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.  (2 Henry VI, 4.2.59, Dick the Butcher to Jack Cade)
  • Help, master, help! here’s a fish hangs in the net, like a poor man’s right in the law. (Pericles, 2.1.153, Fisherman)
  • The law hath not been dead, though it hath slept.  (Measure for Measure, 2.2.112, Angelo to Isabella)
  • All scholars, lawyers, courtiers, gentlemen, They call false caterpillars, and intend their death. (2 Henry VI, 4.4.36, Messenger to Henry VI)

UPDATE: My brilliant brother has pointed out that Shakespeare’s line regarding killing the lawyers, which is often used by those who would criticize us, was actually a point regarding the importance of lawyers and their role in protecting democracy and individual rights.  Thanks Wyatt!

Doctor Who & The Making of A Legal Geek

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The selection of Peter Capaldi as the 12th Doctor is a very good choice. He is clearly different than Matt Smith, while showing all the qualities of the Doctor. After two relatively young Doctors, having a seasoned actor who grew up watching the show should make for excellent storytelling.

I have been a fan of Doctor Who since I was a kid in the 1980s. I would watch on the PBS Station Channel 54 late at night, usually setting the VCR before going to bed. I even went to an event at the station to meet the 7th Doctor, Sylvester McCoy. I also attended TimeCon in 1985 and 1986.

ColinBaker-AutographYes, that is Colin Baker, the 6th Doctor and a much younger version of me. I did sew question marks into my shirt collar.

Why Doctor Who?

Doctor Who is one of the most established science fiction TV shows in history. The only other one with such staying power has been Star Trek.

Why? How has it lasted 50 years?

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Guess whose autograph I was getting.

The show inspires, with clear lines of right and wrong. There is imagination, hope, adventure and the very human element of pain.

The Next Doctor

Peter Capaldi reminds me as a cross of William Hartnell and Jon Pertwee. We will see how exactly Capaldi approaches the role, but there are several things that are established laws of time:

A generation will grow up with Capaldi as their Doctor.

He will do his best with the role.

Fans from the last 50 years will continue to watch with excitement.

I look forward to the upcoming 50th Anniversary Special and Matt Smith’s goodbye in the Christmas Special.

The question remains, while Capaldi will be different than Matt Smith, will he continue the tradition of the First, Second, Third and Eleventh Doctors and wear a bow tie?

Cheer Up Little Buckaroo: The Legal Issues of Better Off Dead

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Everyone who has had one crazy summer knows the film Better Off Dead. In true 1980s fashion, I re-watched the film on VHS to analyze the fact pattern like it was a bar exam question. I am sure there are people who still have it on Beta and Laserdisc.

JoshBetterOffDead_1214_edited-2The off-beat 1985 cult classic focuses on John Cusack’s character Lane Meyer, whose heartbreak over a girl leads to multiple legal issues. This is ironic, because the fictional father (played by David Ogden Stiers) was an attorney.

Was Lane Meyer a Such a Danger to Himself to Be Involuntarily Confined?

California’s Welfare and Institutions Code section 5150 allows a person to be involuntarily confined if they are a danger to themselves from a mental disorder. The law specifically states:

(a) When any person, as a result of mental disorder, is a danger to others, or to himself or herself, or gravely disabled, a peace officer, member of the attending staff, as defined by regulation, of an evaluation facility designated by the county, or other professional person designated by the county may, upon probable cause, take, or cause to be taken, the person into custody and place him or her in a facility designated by the county and approved by the State Department of Health Care Services as a facility for 72-hour treatment and evaluation.

(b) The facility shall require an application in writing stating the circumstances under which the person’s condition was called to the attention of the officer, member of the attending staff, or professional person, and stating that the officer, member of the attending staff, or professional person has probable cause to believe that the person is, as a result of mental disorder, a danger to others, or to himself or herself, or gravely disabled. If the probable cause is based on the statement of a person other than the officer, member of the attending staff, or professional person, the person shall be liable in a civil action for intentionally giving a statement which he or she knows to be false.

Cal Wel & Inst Code § 5150

Lane Meyer without a doubt could have been placed under a 72-hour hold in California. Lane showed obsessive behavior toward his girlfriend Beth, which included sleeping with a photo of her, photos of her on all of his clothes hangers and other photos decorated all over his room. Lane sank into a depression after Beth’s break-up line, “Lane, I think it’d be in my best interest if I dated somebody more popular. Better looking. Drives a nicer car,” and took affirmative actions to commit suicide.

And then his drawings started talking to him.

To show probable cause, “a state of facts must be known to the peace officer (or other authorized person) that would lead a person of ordinary care and prudence to believe, or to entertain a strong suspicion, that the person detained is mentally disordered and is a danger to himself or herself or is gravely disabled. In justifying the particular intrusion, the officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which, taken together with rational inferences from those facts, reasonably warrant his or her belief or suspicion. [Citations.] Each case must be decided on the facts and circumstances presented to the [detaining person] at the time of the detention [citation], and the [detaining person] is justified in taking into account the past conduct, character, and reputation of the detainee. [Citation.]”  Heater v. Southwood Psychiatric Center, 42 Cal. App. 4th 1068, 1080 (Cal. App. 4th Dist. 1996).

All of these factors clearly show a mental disorder and Lane becoming a danger to himself that would demonstrate probable cause to justify a psychiatric hold for evaluation. Moreover, the affirmative acts to commit suicide would be enough to establish probable cause. People v. Triplett (1983, Cal App 1st Dist) 144 Cal App 3d 283.

You Wash Your Hands On Your Own Time

The intent of the California Retail Food Code is for the people of California to have food that is “pure, safe, and unadulterated.” Cal Health & Saf Code § 113705. To be blunt, everyone wants some hand soap to wash their hands before cooking food.

WashingHandsThe events at Pig Burger flew in the face of California law with the owner’s comment “Wash your hands on your own time.” The law requires:

(a) Except as specified in subdivision (b), all employees shall thoroughly wash their hands and that portion, if any, of their arms exposed to direct food contact with cleanser and warm water by vigorously rubbing together the surfaces of their lathered hands and arms for at least 10 to 15 seconds and thoroughly rinsing with clean running water followed by drying of cleaned hands and that portion, if any, of their arms exposed. Employees shall pay particular attention to the areas underneath the fingernails and between the fingers. Employees shall wash their hands in all of the following instances:

(1) Immediately before engaging in food preparation, including working with nonprepackaged food, clean equipment and utensils, and unwrapped single-use food containers and utensils.

(2) After touching bare human body parts other than clean hands and clean, exposed portions of arms.

(3) After using the toilet room.

(4) After caring for or handling any animal allowed in a food facility pursuant to this part.

(5) After coughing, sneezing, using a handkerchief or disposable tissue, using tobacco, eating, or drinking.

(6) After handling soiled equipment or utensils.

(7) During food preparation, as often as necessary to remove soil and contamination and to prevent cross-contamination when changing tasks.

(8) When switching between working with raw food and working with ready-to-eat food.

(9) Before donning gloves for working with food.

(10) Before dispensing or serving food or handling clean tableware and serving utensils in the food service area.

(11) After engaging in other activities that contaminate the hands.

(b) If approved and capable of removing the types of soils encountered in the food operations involved, an automatic handwashing facility may be used by food employees to clean their hands.

Cal Health & Saf Code § 113953.3

There is simply no way an employer could tell an employee to wash his hands on their own time and have it be legal.

The Paperboy: Property Damage & Collections

The Paperboy raises several issues: Property Damage; Unlawful Collection; and Gang Violence.

The Paperboy damaged the windows of the Meyers’ garage door repeatedly. This property damage would be unlawful, subjecting the paperboy and newspaper to liability, because the windows were broken repeatedly.

Newspaper DeliveryThe actions the Paperboy took to collect his “two dollars” raise multiple legal issues. First, the law prohibits harassment. Federal law states that a “debt collector may not engage in any conduct the natural consequence of which is to harass, oppress, or abuse any person…” and also prohibits the use of obscene or profane language to the hearer or reader. 15 United States Code section 1692d(2). Also, California law prohibits collection agency employees from physically threatening or injuring someone. California Civil Code section 1788.10.

The Paperboy chasing Lane Meyer would violate both Federal and state law. Moreover, the multiple paperboys working together to threaten Lane after the high school dance could rise to the level of gang violence under California Penal Code 186.22.

Despite the collection sins of the Paperboy, Roy Stalin was not legally justified in pushing the child off a cliff while skiing K12. That would be attempted murder.

Mail Order Exchange Student

The French exchange student Monique was treated like a mail order bride by her host family. The actions by Ricky’s mother would violate multiple human trafficking laws, since the mother’s intent appeared to be to select a woman for her creepy son.

Sorry Your Mom Blew Up

Mrs. Smith lit a cigarette after drinking the primer that Lane intended to use to kill himself in the Meyer home. Mrs. Smith would be able to prevail on a theory of premise liability if she could prove the Meyers were negligent in failing to use “reasonable care to keep their home reasonably safe” or “give adequate warning of anything that could be reasonably expected to harm others.” 2-10 California Forms of Jury Instruction 1001.

The primer was put on the table, which Mrs. Smith drank. The primer was labeled and Lane knew it to be dangerous, since he was planning to use it to light himself on fire. These facts might be enough to show negligence to establish liability for Mrs. Smith’s injuries.

Illegal Street Racing

The car racing with Lane Meyer and the brothers Yee Sook Ree and Chen Ree would be illegal in California as a “drag race” or “street race.” Those who cause injuries in a street race can be found guilty of assault with a deadly weapon from reckless driving under California of Pen. Code, § 245, subd. (a)(1). See, People v. Aznavoleh, 210 Cal. App. 4th 1181, 1189 (Cal. App. 2d Dist. 2012).

BlackCamaroLane’s backing into the owner of Pig Burger and landing in the puddle with Monique and Ricky would place him in both civil and criminal jeopardy for his actions. In the second race, Monique stepping on the accelerator would be a mitigating factor.

Delinquency of a Minor

The parents of Badger Meyer were negligent in their son’s development. The child ordered the book “How to Pick Up on Trashy Women,” which he put to use entertaining women in his bedroom, complete with underage drinking.

Between the moral issues of Badger’s childhood, he built a working laser gun and launched a homemade Space Shuttle through the roof of the house. These actions would cause liability to the parents for the child’s actions and a harsh visit from Child Protective Services.

Trespassing & Reckless Driving

There is simply no legal way to drive a car onto the field at Dodger Stadium.

Unless you are making a movie.

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What's In a Name…For a Future King of Great Britain?

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BabyMove over, Harry, you’ve just been bumped.  As of earlier today, we have a new royal who’s third-in-line for the crown of Great Britain and you’ve been moved down to fourth (not that you care – this just means more time for parties in Vegas).

That’s right.  In case your Internet connection hasn’t been working until just now, you may not know that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge (a.k.a. William and Catherine) had a baby boy today.  (Princess Diana would have been a grandmother today.)  Following royal tradition, they haven’t released the baby’s name yet so that game gets to continue for a few more days.

And now I get to play!

I’m not an expert on British royalty or all their traditions, but I have been fascinated by their monarchy since I was a kid.  When I wasn’t reading about John Carter and the Black Stallion I read my first biography, on Queen Elizabeth I, and I was hooked on those Tudors.  Between that and a burgeoning obsession with Princess Di (I even had her haircut!) I became fascinated with the British monarchy (for its entertainment and historical value only – I’m very glad we declared our independence from the monarchy).

CrownBoth Queen Elizabeth and Duchess Catherine (the future Queen Catherine) have names closely associated with the Tudors.  The Queen is only the second Queen Elizabeth, following in the footsteps of the daughter of Henry VIII who went on to become one of the greatest of the English monarchs (after a very rough childhood, thanks to her father’s ways).  And, of course, the first Elizabeth only came into existence because of her father’s fascination with her mother, Anne Boleyn, which led to him divorcing his first wife, Queen Catherine of Aragon, and splitting away from the Roman Catholic Church to marry Anne.  (Henry went on to marry two more Catherines, one of whom he subsequently had beheaded.  Good thing it’s not as dangerous to be married to an English king anymore.)

William’s name, on the other hand, has another very important connection to English history – and the legal system we know today.  While there have been other King Williams, the most important William is William the Conquerer – a Norman who invaded England and became king in 1066.  1066: that’s a date I learned the first week of law school and I’ve never forgotten it.  While historically a bit overly simplistic, 1066 and William’s invasion of England are seen as the beginning of the tradition of common law, which we still use in the United States today.  Common law is not law based on statutes and regulations passed by legislative or executive bodies.  Instead, it’s built up out of judicial decisions, with the reasoning and holdings of those decisions used in future decisions (as precedent).

The goal, both then and now, of common law is to provide certainty to litigants and some consistency across courts and regions.  In reality, of course, it’s not perfect, but its lasted almost a thousand years old and is still relied upon (at least in part) by a third of the world’s population.

English KingAnyway, back to baby names…given the historical significance of his parents’ and great-grandmother’s name, what name will William and Kate chose for their son?  George is a historically weighty name, but there have been a lot of King Georges.  There’s the same problem with Henry.  Edward also has a long tradition, but given the Queen’s uncle’s abdication, I don’t think they’ll choose that name.  And Shakespeare ensured that we could never think of Richard in a positive light.  So I say they forget about impressive names and choose a more obscure kingly name that should be brought back: Edgar.  It may be a little too close to Edward for comfort but I’m placing my (fictional) money on Edgar for the new royal highness!